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Donald Hoffman

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Donald Hoffman

  • reality vs consciousness experience
  • we cant solve this ?
  • or could we ?
  • do we see reality, as it is?
  • red tomato meter away ?
  • then i close my eyes – dark
  • can i be wrong?
  • used to think that earth is flat .. beacuse it looks that way
  • then we thought, it is the center .. beacuse it looks that way
  • Galileo
    • " think that tastes, odors, colors, and so on ... reside in consciousness. Hence if the living creature were removed, all these qualities would be ... annihilated."

  • could we really be misinterpreting our experiences that badly?

  • about third of brain cortex, is visoin
  • vision seems like a camera
  • there is part of it that is LIKE A camera .. eye is like some 130 mpx camera..
  • that doesnt explain synapses and neurences... neuroscience is thinking, it constructing all we see
    • CONSTRUCTS —> WHAT WE NEED TO SEE

  • we RECONSTRUCT the reality

  • why reconstruct then construct
  • evolutionary
  • australian jewel beetle story
    • mismatched female for a glass of beer
  • DOES NATURAL SELECTION FAVOR SEEING REALITY AS IT IS?
  • FITNESS
    • WHAT does the steak do to fitness of an animal ?
    • for hungry lion – enhaces fitness
    • for well-fed,.. doesnt enhance fitness
  • fitness does depend on reality as it is AND onthe organism - its state and its action
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  • only fitness drives to staying alive
  • PERCEPTION OF REALITY GOES EXTINCT

  • how can it be, that not seeing the world accurately gives us survival advantage

  • how can it be useful?
  • metaphor – desktop user interface,..
    • it is not to show reality of the computer ,.. you dont want to see resistors, wires and voltages

    • it HIDES reality and GUIDES BEHAVIOR

    • spacetime is our UI
  • evolution has shaped us with perceptual symbols that are designer to keep us alive
  • there is nothing really new :)
  • not exactly
  • even if you look on the icon with mignifier glass – i see pixels and think that it is made of pixels and thats it ,... haha. but no really .. you re still on desctop – STILL IN SPACETIME (still in UI)
  • look, we all se the train, we each see the train, that we construct
  • inclined to think that the perception is like window on reality, as it is
    • oh no
  • reality is more like 3D desktop - hide the complex world,..
  • spacetime – we are wrong, again
  • it is hard to let spacetime go.. cause we are blind to our own blindnesses
  • perceptual experience, which i describe as red tomato —> the reality is nothing like red tomato
  • experience of a lion, or a steak – the reality is nothing like
  • when i have perceptual experience - that i describe as brain or neurones, i am interacting with reality – but the reality is not a brain or neurones and nothing like them
  • that reality, whatever it is, is the real source of cause and effect of the world
  • brains and neurones are a species-specific set of symbols – a hack
  • mystery of conciousness
  • we need to let go massively intuitive, but massivly false assumption about the nature of reality
  • opens up new ways..
  • PERCEPTION IS NOT ABOUT SEEING TRUTH, IT IS ABOUT HAVING KIDS
  • science continues,.. just the theory is false
  • its possible that evolution can still get you to reason
  • evolutionary games about perception .. that does not mean about mathematics or logic,..

what is the propability that natural selection would shape sensory systems to see true properties of objective reality

  • ALMOST ZERO
  • what we are seeing – is WHAT WE NEED TO SEE to stay alive
  • most of us intuitivly think, that evolution will make our senses more fit – to see more truth
  • standard view, what we were thought, or just assumed
  • propability of zero
    • exception – sigma algebra, sigmative classes,..
    • assumption that whatever probabilistic structure of world is not unreleated to our perception
  • the thing we see with our eyes is completely detatched from reality
  • none of this is real

  • it is real experience

  • adaptive set of perceptions

  • PERCEPTION IS THERE TO GUIDE ADAPTIVE BEHAVIOR
    • not there to show the truth
    • there are there to HIDE THE TRUTH
    • like the reason of user interface
  • evolution gave us perception that hides the truth and give eye candy :-§
  • nothing like space-time in the laws of physics
  • doomed
  • doesnt tell what is behind it
  • einstein gravity + quantum theory put together
    • entail that spacetime cannot be fundemental
  • just IRREDUCIBLE REPRESNTATIONS OF THE SYMMETRIES OF SPACE TIME
  • good ride, but it is over
  • both space and time —> union —> doomed
  • even quantum theroy .. doomed
  • hilbert spaces, also not
  • they finding new structures.. succeding

    • amplituhedron

  • polytopes -- polyhydra

  • Dual conformal symmetry

  • true to scattering data - cant be seen in space time
  • enforce 2 critical properties of space time
  • whole new world beyond spacetime
    • making explicit symmetries that are true of the data that cannot be seen in spacetime
    • turning computions of bilion terms into few
    • —> SIMPLE
    • no loops... far deerer
  • —> to one PARK TAYLOR FORMULA
  • now it is time for a new trick
  • strong contrain.. needs project into spacetime,..
  • something beyond spacetime – projecting onto spacetime
  • component of reality
  • isnt it better to connects your – whatever we are doing is social interactions - from an evolutionary perspective it to some degree to connect it to some universal reality -
  • other then something what is completely illusion
  • can you completely just drift away far from reality
  • 1 evolutionary psychology of financial systems – defi, crypto.. other then putting faith in few central controllers | democracy is step in that direction, we decentralize | DEFI even bigger step
  • power-to-corrupt .. evolutionary too
  • power does corrupt – evolutionary point of view
  • does the volutionary interface idea unhinge science from some kind of important test for the theries
    • doesnt mean anything goes
    • we can only test things, in terms of what wi can measure with our senses in spacetime
  • we gonna continue, but gonna understand a little differently
  • POINTER exists, VALUES exists, even if nobody is seeing them
  • not that ANYTHING GOES
  • but you see what goes with that axiom system
  • we wont have conceptual understanding of something final
  • job security for sciencists – we well never know
  • REVERSE ENGINEERING
    • FAR MORE NEW WORK,..
  • beyond space time
  • projecting high dimensional structure to 4d of spacetime
  • all assumed is based od spacetime, which is doomed
  • shot to the heart of the whole conceptual framework - the fundamental ontology and methodology (reductionism)
  • reductionism is in fact dead
    • reductionist explanation —> i will start with smaller things first
    • assume that speed of light is universal for all observers
    • and laws of physiscs
    • that is not reductionism
    • it is not coming up with deep deep principles
    • reductionism - heat.. can be reduced to thoso molecules.. quickly moving .. etc
    • but now we know, somewhere it has to stop
  • are we really far away?
  • understanding - for fun | so you can build things - when you really need to understand it
  • WHATEVER REALITY IS, IS NOT WHAT YOU SEE
  • ISNT that paralyzing
  • introspect to the bottom:.?
  • spiritual tradition..
    • saying for thousands od years
    • that spacetime is illusion
    • bottom -
    • beyond conceptual though - they claim - contact with deep ground of being
    • would make science personal
    • but with scientific method
  • if conciousness is important.. its neverending exploration
  • solve heart problem
  • now showing how brains create conciseness but how networks of concious agentse creates symbols - that we call brains
  • interesteing – conciseness creates brain
  • no such thing as theory of everything
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplituhedron
  • we will always go deeper but never solve that
  • what am i, why is chocolate so delicious
  • what am i ? just a projection into space time by something bigger..?
  • any view/projection of it will have artefact.. of .. ?
  • artefact of deeper system ?
  • limited resources . give rise to time .. to limited resource .. to evolution ..
  • notion of self ?
    • given by evolution?
    • can be artifact of a projection
    • one conscious agent
    • any projection of gives rise to time
  • maybe what consciousness is doing - is projected itself down – .. trying to find out about itself and eventually transcend?

  • NOT A SINGLE CONSCIOUS EXPERIENCE WE COULD EXPLAIN

  • IS IT POSSIBLE TO VISUALIZE REALITY?
    • incrementali we would be able to picture that
    • ?
  • drugs .. new portals into conscious experience
  • taking dmt, lsd
    • what are we doing to conscious agents when we take it
    • open genuine portal ?
    • technology —> having kids – how we build new portals into consciosness
    • your son and daughter –> didnt exist – contact with consciousness
    • is that portal yours?
    • how much is consciousness of your kids part of you?
    • every person i see - the symbol - the body - is portal to potentially interact with conciseness (personality)
    • my own interface, my own projection – can i see other projections? of that consciousnesses?
    • how are psychedelics acting?
    • how can we create new portal? we know that it creates new portals
    • tweaking / creating
  • you are the author of space and time
  • practical implications..
    • big questions,.. hate, war, evil, positives, meaning, love,..
  • what is the conscious realism at had to daily life
  • life is ephemeral
    • everythings we do is gonna disappear

  • ephemeral

  • all the time recreating
  • everythings over and over
  • prosche exist when i look at it.. every one is creating his own prosche,..
  • porsche exists only as long as you look..
  • what spiritual traditions had been saying for so long now proves science
  • whole idea, why are we fighting, why do we hate,..
  • we THINK everything exists outside of us
  • but we create it, on the fly
  • a lot of truth, wisdom about that ephemeral
  • consciousness is fundamental, NOT THE BODY
  • THIS is mathematics .. here is mathematical model, we can be precise
  • game, simulation theory
  • like games - renders only what the player sees
  • research on what a feeling to give to take it as real
  • dont take that much
  • give perception they are expecting
  • experiment
    • closed eyes - what you see in front - dark cloud,..
    • but what do you see behind?
    • it is not even darkness
    • no qualia to it !
  • so immersed in simulation so we buy it so much
  • mortal human being
  • god is not a being.. but being - bytí
  • one gone we are part of
  • cannot hurt the other, cause i would hurt myself
  • you are the being creating the space and time, author of space and time
  • just a little data structure
  • textbooks gonna look silly in 50 years
  • but its your time to progress
  • only limit is your imagination
  • greatest books are yet to be written
  • meaning..?
  • if consciousness is fundamental
  • and infinite variety of structures to explore for consciousness
  • maybe thats whats about
  • there is being and then there are experiences that comes up from being
  • somehow it is related to — why does being just stay without any forms
  • why do we have experiences
  • whats behind me - there is nothing, but there is being
  • why all this complacted stuff
  • somehow consciousness wakes up to itself to knowing what it's not
  • I AM my body ,..
  • consciousness emerses itself fully into a particular headset, gets lost in it, and then slowly wakes up
  • but needs to know, what it is not

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